Location:

Calgary

Date:

October 26, 2000

Number of Participants:

29

Other Locations:

October 17 Leduc
October 18 Drayton Valley
October 19 Rocky Mountain House
October 23 Sundre
October 24 Grande Prairie
October 25 Red Deer
October 26 Calgary
October 30 Pincher Creek

Summary Aboriginal

Summary Response Forms

1. DEVELOPMENT PLANNING

  • Expressed confusion on whether or not the development area included companies working together rather then piece meal processes.
  • Expressed concern about having to restart the process with each new company that comes in for example, pipe line company, well company etc.
  • would like all parties to look at using a zonal approach
  • Not enough knowledge about what development will look like in 10 years from now.
  • A participant is concerned about an area in the document that seems to contradict itself -- refer to page 13 of "Directions Document" where it says "Delineation and Recovery of Sour Gas reserves in a timely manner". He feels that this contradicts with the idea of minimizing the amount of wells. He wonders how minimizing well production will help safety matters because it will prolong the whole process. He feels that the minimizing should refer to surface facilities only.
  • Alberta MD's should also be responsible for developing and submitting developmental plans.
  • Real estate brokers should also take a more active role in familiarizing and sharing information about the oil and gas developments past, present, and future, including immigrants and others who may have never heard of sour gas before.
  • There is psychological angst over topsoil real estate and bottom soil rights -- will the committee discuss a link between the two?
  • Create Resource development plan for extracting resources with attention to present and future demographic change- Have boards to govern these extraction plans in each rural area.
  • Define "rural area".

2. EUB ROLE

  • Content of Regulations
  • Make all incident reports public.
  • Industry responsible to pay monetary penalties if they misinform the landowners.
  • EUB makes biased regulations for the industry and that the regulations are intangible because of lack of enforcement.
  • Lack of enforcement because of lack of an Alberta Law that would allow the EUB to enforce the regulations with greater ease.
  • EUB has its hands tied and can not do anything.
  • Board should have the right to remove operator licenses.
  • EUB continues to license companies who do not have proper technology or money to do the job right.
  • Regulations should define what "acceptable risk" is in one conservative model that is understandable and used by everyone involved- would eliminate confusion and debate at hearings.
  • EUB regulations should have a one window approach that is simple and specific, a this document should be made available to the public.
  • Effectiveness of field surveillance system and other enforcement measures
  • Studies and determinations of public safety standards should be removed from the EUB and put in the hands of the Health Authorities who by profession may have a different perspective on human health issues.
  • EUB does not have the knowledge needed to properly assess risk.
  • Health authority should collect necessary health info rather then the industry.
  • Health authorities should have permanent role and seat with the EUB.
  • EUB needs to be more internally coordinated and communicative with each other (between departments) so that action is taken when promised and that all departments agree with an action that is to be taken.
  • EUB needs to have better communication with the landowners.
  • Difficult to get incident reports from EUB.
  • Inaccurate incident reports/information coming from EUB which is creating credibility issues with the EUB.
  • All releases should be recorded and should be a mandatory law on reporting all incidents.
  • EUB should focus more on dispersion models rather than risk assessments.
  • Application and Decision Process
  • Health authority should have part in determining applications and decisions as well as making recommendations concerning human health issues.
  • Entire potential project must be looked at during application process.
  • EUB and industry have one standardized package that goes out to the public during application and development stages.
  • Relationship with Aboriginal People
  • More communication about EUB role in the First Nation communities.
  • The Aboriginal people have little knowledge about the EUB.
  • Would like to see final reports and existing policies, how they will be managed and what will come of the recommendations.

3. Monitoring

  • Controlled areas are well monitored now.
  • Places outside controlled areas should be as well as monitored as within the controlled areas.
  • Need more personal monitoring systems and financial assistance for the personal monitoring systems.

4. Jurisdiction

  • No comments

5. Industry Procedures and Personnel

  • Land men are not making the landowners aware of risks/entirety of development plans.
  • Land men should have to pass a Board presented exam before he can approach the landowners.
  • Great deal of misinformation from the industry to the public.
  • Industry/land owner relationships would be created more effectively if the industry was honest about their mistakes and then clean them up rather then cover them up.
  • Industry should deal with issues in a forthright and mature manner.
  • The fact that there is good trustworthy oil companies needs to be made known to the public.
  • Industry does not have problem with getting the info to the people but does have a problem when new regulations have to be implemented immediately.
  • Industry needs to maintain its integrity over long term operations
  • One standardized package should be created to go out to the people -- should be written with non-technical jargon and made readable for the lay person.
  • Public should be informed of production using TV, newspapers.
  • Good companies should not product share with the bad companies.

6. Emergency Response Planning and Preparedness

  • Emergency planning zones need to be more stringent.

7. Understanding Health Effects

  • Not enough resources in small rural areas.
  • Funding should be provided for the education of medical personal as well as for the purchasing of necessary equipment in rural areas.
  • Not enough experienced medical personal or facilities to deal with chemically injured people.
  • Aboriginal are more susceptible to the side effects of sour gas exposure because of enzyme structure.
  • What about the Overlapping /Cumulative risks?
  • People who have been exposed and who are now or were already chemically sensitive are more susceptible to long low level exposure-are these people included in determining health and safety levels?
  • Area specific environmental issues should be a factor in risk assessments
  • should acquire Good Toxicology experts found in UK, USA, Sweden (Birmingham University, Lester University).
  • Board makes mention on hazard identification but does not address chronic low level exposures when it should be
  • More communication and info needed in order to reduce stress levels.

8. Technical Knowledge

  • EUB should focus more on dispersion models rather than risk assessments.

9. Setbacks

  • Feel that recommending increased setbacks is only an avoidance of the problem.
  • Should be utilizing new technologies that would eliminate the necessity of setbacks (encapsulated system).

10. Public Consultation by Industry

  • Industry responsible to pay monetary penalties if they misinform the landowners.
  • Industry/land owner relationships would be created more effectively if the industry was honest about their mistakes and then clean them up rather then cover them up.
  • Industry should deal with issues in a forthright and mature manner
  • the fact that there is good trustworthy oil companies needs to be made known to the public.
  • Public should be informed of production using TV, newspapers.
  • Land men are not making the landowners aware of risks/entirety of development plans.

11. Public Awareness and Education

  • Oil and Gas brings economic prosperity to Alberta and because if the prosperity there should be a positive offset to that for example; education and building roads with some of the money.
  • More info on all the chemicals present in the emissions should be available.
  • EUB and industry have one standardized package that goes out to the public during application and development stages.
  • More communication and info needed in order to reduce stress levels.

12. Aboriginal Issues

  • Would like to see final reports and existing policies, how they will be managed and what will come of the recommendations.

13. Implementation

  • No comment

14. Other/Non-Mandate but Important Issues

  • Long term health effects are not being addressed by anyone.
  • These meetings are only serving to reinvent the wheel.
  • Industry is frustrated with EUB-it wants a level playing field in relation to other companies.
  • "Blackhats" of the industry should be under rigorous scrutiny of daily their applications.
  • EUB should have a mechanism that checklists and tracks the good and bad companies.- good companies are made known to the public- bad companies shut in.
  • EUB needs a direction.
  • EUB needs to become a regulator rather than an auditor.
  • EUB needs to be funded more so that they can hire good long-term people.
  • EUB needs to be impartial -- funding from the industry and the possible implications of this need to be resolved for people to be satisfied.
  • Furnace filters to protect houses, reduce parts per million substantially escape hoods 300-500% reduction of parts per million -- he wants to make a presentation to committee.